Cross-staff chords – beaming problems workaround - Revision history

Lemzwerg at 06:01, 14 December 2025

2025-12-14T06:01:53Z

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	Sometimes it is better to use stems from the ~~upper~~ staff for creating cross-staff chords~~, because no problems with automatic~~ beam collision ~~avoidance then arise~~. If the stems from the lower staff were used ~~in the following example~~, it would be necessary to ~~change the automatic beam collision avoidance settings so that it doesn't detect collisions between staves using <code>~~\override Staff.Beam.collision-voice-only = ##t~~</code>~~		Sometimes it is better to use stems from the ‘other’ staff for creating cross-staff chords to trick LilyPond's beam collision detector. In the following snippet, if the stems from the lower staff were used instead, it would be necessary to explicitly use

			\override Staff.Beam.collision-voice-only = ##t

			so that LilyPond doesn't move the beams.

	<lilypond version="2.24">		<lilypond version="2.24">
	\new PianoStaff <<		\new PianoStaff <<
	\new Staff = up		\new Staff = up \relative c' <<
	\relative c' {		{ r4
	<<		\override Stem.cross-staff = ##t
	{ r4		\override Stem.length = #19 % this is in half-spaces,
	\override Stem.cross-staff = ##t		% so it makes stems 9.5 staffspaces long
	\override Stem.length = #19 % this is in half-spaces,		\override Stem.Y-offset = #-6 % stems are normally lengthened
	% so it makes stems 9.5 staffspaces long		% upwards, so here we must lower the stem by the amount
	\override Stem.Y-offset = #-6 % stems are normally lengthened		% equal to the lengthening - in this case (19 - 7) / 2
	% upwards, so here we must lower the stem by the amount		% (7 is default stem length)
	% equal to the lengthening - in this case (19 - 7) / 2		e e e }
	% (7 is default stem length)		{ s4
	e e e }		\change Staff = "bottom"
	{ s4		\override NoteColumn.ignore-collision = ##t
	\change Staff = "bottom"		c, c c
	\override NoteColumn.ignore-collision = ##t
	c, c c
	}
	>>
	}
	~~\new Staff = bottom~~
	~~\relative c' {~~
	~~\clef bass~~
	~~\voiceOne~~
	~~g8 a g a g a g a~~
	}		}
			>>

			\new Staff = bottom \relative c' {
			\clef bass
			\voiceOne
			g8 a g a g a g a
			}
	>>		>>
	</lilypond>		</lilypond>

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	[[Category:~~Included in the official documentation~~]]		[[Category:Keyboards]]
	[[Category:Tweaks and overrides]]		[[Category:Tweaks and overrides]]
	~~[[Category:Chords]]~~
	~~[[Category:Keyboards]]~~
	[[Category:Workaround]]		[[Category:Workaround]]
			[[Category:Included in the official documentation]]
	[[Category:Snippet]]		[[Category:Snippet]]

Lemzwerg: Lemzwerg moved page Cross-staff chords - beaming problems workaround to Cross-staff chords – beaming problems workaround without leaving a redirect

2025-12-13T13:40:49Z

Lemzwerg moved page Cross-staff chords - beaming problems workaround to Cross-staff chords – beaming problems workaround without leaving a redirect

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Lemzwerg at 22:51, 21 November 2025

2025-11-21T22:51:07Z

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Jean Abou Samra: Replace version="2.24.0" with version="2.24" now that the LilyWiki extension supports auto-selecting the latest release in a stable series

2025-11-16T18:49:08Z

Replace version="2.24.0" with version="2.24" now that the LilyWiki extension supports auto-selecting the latest release in a stable series

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	Sometimes it is better to use stems from the upper staff for creating cross-staff chords, because no problems with automatic beam collision avoidance then arise. If the stems from the lower staff were used in the following example, it would be necessary to change the automatic beam collision avoidance settings so that it doesn't detect collisions between staves using <code>\override Staff.Beam.collision-voice-only = ##t</code>		Sometimes it is better to use stems from the upper staff for creating cross-staff chords, because no problems with automatic beam collision avoidance then arise. If the stems from the lower staff were used in the following example, it would be necessary to change the automatic beam collision avoidance settings so that it doesn't detect collisions between staves using <code>\override Staff.Beam.collision-voice-only = ##t</code>

	<lilypond version="2.24.0">		<lilypond version="2.24">
	\new PianoStaff <<		\new PianoStaff <<
	\new Staff = up		\new Staff = up

Jean Abou Samra: Import snippet from LSR

2025-10-26T22:40:08Z

Import snippet from LSR

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Sometimes it is better to use stems from the upper staff for creating cross-staff chords, because no problems with automatic beam collision avoidance then arise. If the stems from the lower staff were used in the following example, it would be necessary to change the automatic beam collision avoidance settings so that it doesn't detect collisions between staves using <code>\override Staff.Beam.collision-voice-only = ##t</code>

<lilypond version="2.24.0">
\new PianoStaff <<
\new Staff = up
\relative c' {
<<
{ r4
\override Stem.cross-staff = ##t
\override Stem.length = #19 % this is in half-spaces,
% so it makes stems 9.5 staffspaces long
\override Stem.Y-offset = #-6 % stems are normally lengthened
% upwards, so here we must lower the stem by the amount
% equal to the lengthening - in this case (19 - 7) / 2
% (7 is default stem length)
e e e }
{ s4
\change Staff = "bottom"
\override NoteColumn.ignore-collision = ##t
c, c c
}
>>
}
\new Staff = bottom
\relative c' {
\clef bass
\voiceOne
g8 a g a g a g a
}
>>
</lilypond>

[[Category:Chords]]
[[Category:Included in the official documentation]]
[[Category:Tweaks and overrides]]
[[Category:Chords]]
[[Category:Keyboards]]
[[Category:Workaround]]